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Ultimate Gohan and Piccolo vs SSJR Black and Zamasu; who wins?
Topic Started: Aug 21 2017, 11:17 PM (876 Views)
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Like with other topics, I feel like Piccolo on his own could defeat these two in any number of ways. For example, he could generate methane and ammonia compounds in the air around Black and Zamasu, then he could allow them to oxidise which would in turn result in the creation of hydrogen cyanide, a potentially colourless gas that would only be noticed due to the characteristic faint aroma of what smells like almonds. An HCN concentration of 2000 ppm would result in death via the deprivation of oxygen to cells and organs that absorb the chemical in only a minute's time. Once it's reached a certain concentration in the air it becomes explosive and flammable so the celestial duo would be foolhardy to try anything. Piccolo should be able to neutralise the compound before it reaches him and Gohan by surrounding themselves in a tight ring of hydrogen peroxide and sodium thiosulfate.

Alternatively, Piccolo could generate vibrational particles that are imparted with enough kinetic energy to generate a sound around the opponents at the necessary decibels to kill via pulmonary rupture and air embolism. Of course, Piccolo would also have to take precautions by materialising something potent enough to reflect or absorb most of the sound before it reaches him and Gohan. He could also compact the air around them with enough particles to nullify the vibrational interactions and energy.

Since the above proposals are unlikely to happen, along with the Namekian failing to remember that he can use the Mafuba, I guess Piccolo gets taken down in a few shots as both Black and Zamasu seemed to be SSJB tier in the anime. Gohan can't contend with both at once. Black wouldn't even need his gaseous clones to defeat Gohan. Teamwork coupled with conventional manoeuvres would suffice in bringing the Saiyan hybrid down.
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Piccolo gets blown away easily, he's nothing compared to the others. Alone, Gohan could probably take Zamasu down without his immortality. With the left over stamina he has he should still be able to defeat Black as well.
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Depends, Goku Black was said to be the strongest non-fused character, and his ability to get stronger as well makes it a problem for Gohan. So Goku black alone wins
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Horrible spite against Gohan and Piccolo: Black and Zamasu godstomp, literally.
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Aug 22 2017, 09:17 AM
Horrible spite against Gohan and Piccolo: Black and Zamasu godstomp, literally.
I agree. Until shown other wise with solid evidence gohan is not blue teir and can not fight black.
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Black alone beats Gohan and Piccolo. Zamasu is just his meat shield.
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Gohan told Goku to go full-power and Goku used Kaioken, he's blue tier. Zamasu and Piccolo are hard to power-scale so I have no clue. They keep going back and forth with how strong Base is. Basil and Lavendar who are comparable to SSJ2 can hurt Base Vegeta. But then SSJ3 Gotenks can't do sh*t to Base copy Vegeta
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Aug 23 2017, 12:12 AM
Gohan told Goku to go full-power and Goku used Kaioken, he's blue tier. Zamasu and Piccolo are hard to power-scale so I have no clue. They keep going back and forth with how strong Base is. Basil and Lavendar who are comparable to SSJ2 can hurt Base Vegeta. But then SSJ3 Gotenks can't do sh*t to Base copy Vegeta
He also asked many times for goku to get serious even after goku went blue so your point holds no merit.
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Aug 23 2017, 12:12 AM
Gohan told Goku to go full-power and Goku used Kaioken, he's blue tier. Zamasu and Piccolo are hard to power-scale so I have no clue. They keep going back and forth with how strong Base is. Basil and Lavendar who are comparable to SSJ2 can hurt Base Vegeta. But then SSJ3 Gotenks can't do sh*t to Base copy Vegeta
He also asked many times for goku to get serious even after goku went blue so your point holds no merit.
kk is serious so yes it does
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Aug 23 2017, 12:15 AM
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Aug 23 2017, 12:12 AM
Gohan told Goku to go full-power and Goku used Kaioken, he's blue tier. Zamasu and Piccolo are hard to power-scale so I have no clue. They keep going back and forth with how strong Base is. Basil and Lavendar who are comparable to SSJ2 can hurt Base Vegeta. But then SSJ3 Gotenks can't do sh*t to Base copy Vegeta
He also asked many times for goku to get serious even after goku went blue so your point holds no merit.
kk is serious so yes it does
Kk is not serious. He was not serious when he did it in the U6 tournament just wanted to fight a somewhat fair fight same with toppo. The only time you can say he went kk and was serious was against merged zamasu.
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Aug 23 2017, 12:15 AM
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Aug 23 2017, 12:12 AM
Gohan told Goku to go full-power and Goku used Kaioken, he's blue tier. Zamasu and Piccolo are hard to power-scale so I have no clue. They keep going back and forth with how strong Base is. Basil and Lavendar who are comparable to SSJ2 can hurt Base Vegeta. But then SSJ3 Gotenks can't do sh*t to Base copy Vegeta
He also asked many times for goku to get serious even after goku went blue so your point holds no merit.
kk is serious so yes it does
Kk is not serious. He was not serious when he did it in the U6 tournament just wanted to fight a somewhat fair fight same with toppo. The only time you can say he went kk and was serious was against merged zamasu.
That was a life or death situation. Goku likes fighting, you're using the fact that he's excited to say he's not serious. KK SSB is his full-power. He was serious. We're talking how much power he's using, not his mood my dude.
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Aug 23 2017, 12:12 AM
Gohan told Goku to go full-power and Goku used Kaioken, he's blue tier. Zamasu and Piccolo are hard to power-scale so I have no clue. They keep going back and forth with how strong Base is. Basil and Lavendar who are comparable to SSJ2 can hurt Base Vegeta. But then SSJ3 Gotenks can't do sh*t to Base copy Vegeta
He also asked many times for goku to get serious even after goku went blue so your point holds no merit.
kk is serious so yes it does
Kk is not serious. He was not serious when he did it in the U6 tournament just wanted to fight a somewhat fair fight same with toppo. The only time you can say he went kk and was serious was against merged zamasu.
That was a life or death situation. Goku likes fighting, you're using the fact that he's excited to say he's not serious. KK SSB is his full-power. He was serious. We're talking how much power he's using, not his mood my dude.
Mood has alot to do with it. But believe what you want i dont feel like arguing with you.
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Aug 23 2017, 12:12 AM
Gohan told Goku to go full-power and Goku used Kaioken, he's blue tier. Zamasu and Piccolo are hard to power-scale so I have no clue. They keep going back and forth with how strong Base is. Basil and Lavendar who are comparable to SSJ2 can hurt Base Vegeta. But then SSJ3 Gotenks can't do sh*t to Base copy Vegeta
He also asked many times for goku to get serious even after goku went blue so your point holds no merit.
kk is serious so yes it does
Kk is not serious. He was not serious when he did it in the U6 tournament just wanted to fight a somewhat fair fight same with toppo. The only time you can say he went kk and was serious was against merged zamasu.
That was a life or death situation. Goku likes fighting, you're using the fact that he's excited to say he's not serious. KK SSB is his full-power. He was serious. We're talking how much power he's using, not his mood my dude.
Mood has alot to do with it. But believe what you want i dont feel like arguing with you.
Goku was at 100% against Hit and struggled, and you're telling me he wasn't serious. Are you for real right now?
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Aug 23 2017, 12:12 AM
Gohan told Goku to go full-power and Goku used Kaioken, he's blue tier. Zamasu and Piccolo are hard to power-scale so I have no clue. They keep going back and forth with how strong Base is. Basil and Lavendar who are comparable to SSJ2 can hurt Base Vegeta. But then SSJ3 Gotenks can't do sh*t to Base copy Vegeta
He also asked many times for goku to get serious even after goku went blue so your point holds no merit.
kk is serious so yes it does
Kk is not serious. He was not serious when he did it in the U6 tournament just wanted to fight a somewhat fair fight same with toppo. The only time you can say he went kk and was serious was against merged zamasu.
That was a life or death situation. Goku likes fighting, you're using the fact that he's excited to say he's not serious. KK SSB is his full-power. He was serious. We're talking how much power he's using, not his mood my dude.
Mood has alot to do with it. But believe what you want i dont feel like arguing with you.
Goku was at 100% against Hit and struggled, and you're telling me he wasn't serious. Are you for real right now?
Yes i am. And goku was not equal to him in the U6 tournament. But agree to disagree before you get yourself into more trouble.
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